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The Straight Way


This is a place for people to make their opinion, that they don't support gay marriage, known.


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THIS IS MY WIKI AGAINST GAY MARRIAGE. IF YOU ALSO THINK THAT THE STRAIGHT WAY IS THE WAY TO GO, TALK TO ME [dfafadsfasdasf] OR [OrangeFire16].
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Please if you want to debate about this subject just go to gay marriage debate


Please to all supporters of gay marriage: don't think that the purpose of this wiki is to discriminate, we just want to state our opinions and it is our right to do so. We can still get along even though we have different political stances, ok?

The mistreatment of gays or bisexuals will be on a zero tolerance. I do not support being cruel to any human being unless given a reason. However I'm not telling you to not defend yourself if you are being harassed by a gay or bi: then I have no problem with you defending yourself. Thank you and spread the word: the more members the better!
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1)MUST BE AGAINST GAY MARRIGE
2)DON'T BE AN ASSHOLE TO PEOPLE BECUZ THEY'RE GAY THO

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2005-03-02 [Kayne]: Shut up you wannabe Nigga.

2005-03-02 [i am heddas lost brother]: Shut up Adolf

2005-03-02 [RaineDrop]: watch it you moronic troglodyte! don't mess with me right now!

2005-03-02 [Kayne]: If Rainedrop says you are an asshole you either apoligise or leave. And the name is "kayne".

2005-03-02 [i am heddas lost brother]: i was talking to that naziboy kanye

2005-03-02 [Kayne]: *kayne. Not kanye. That is someone else on ET. And I'm not a nazi. Where did you get that idea?

2005-03-02 [RaineDrop]: leave [Kayne] alone too you asshole...and you called me fat! and you do NOT call me that EVER you fucker....

2005-03-02 [Kayne]: Don't worry about me RaineDrop. And don't get worked up. He is just a person with a dying need of attention.

2005-03-02 [Leelo]: wow.......

2005-03-02 [RaineDrop]: he comes here, and doesn't agree with us, but doesn't want to debate it either...just picks fights with the members here...he is just a complete asshole to everyone

2005-03-02 [Kayne]: Bah, I think he chickend out now.

2005-03-02 [RaineDrop]: he will be back to poke fun at someone eventually...he does that...and he just makes shit up, like you being a Nazi...*shakes head*...i hate people like him and why i made my wiki Safe-Zone from Stupidity

2005-03-02 [Echo Rhapsody]: I wish I could be safe from the tone deaf nerd who sits on the seat next to me on the bus, he likes to hum and sing made up songs. and it's obnoxious....

2005-03-02 [RaineDrop]: *twitch* that is why i carry pepperspray

2005-03-02 [Echo Rhapsody]: yeah, i wish!!!! THAT would make my day!!!! my friend and I jsut stair at him till he stops...

2005-03-02 [RaineDrop]: i carry plastic eating utensils with me in my bag (for some unknown reason to me) and i have been known to pull a plastic serrated knife on people...

2005-03-02 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: OKAY, whats with this, in notes today we kept writing "African Americans, Native Americans, and we were just "whites", so what the eff is that about?!?! why don't we gets some frikin special name that we can rant about!!! "call us CACUASIANS, or Europian Americas, or Mixed Decendents" gawww!!! Its like being born white is a bad thing, I'm even half asian!!!! its just the color of my hair and skin!!!!

2005-03-02 [RaineDrop]: i hate that too...blacks are black because they are *not* "African-American"...their great great great grandparents were...they are all now born Americans and they are just black Americans if you feel they need that distinguishment ...i'm not "German American" just because my grand pappy is from Germany...so all this political correctness can go to hell...it's all bullshit...

2005-03-02 [hercules the legend]: hahahaa guess your not like me and snickerdoodle here we get the special names!

2005-03-02 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: for me it's "indian, filipino, scottish, french, english american decendant, crappa whatever!!!"

2005-03-02 [RaineDrop]: i'm "German-American" damn it! i demand to be called that! because it is as pointless as calling a black person "African-American" but they are allowed to demand it! EQUAL TREATMENT REMEMBER!!!

2005-03-02 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: AND thats not even half of it!!! add canadian, spanish, chinese, japanese in there!!! just to be sure that i don't get offended, BUT wait!!! I forgot, I have red hair, hazel eyes and a light skin complexion, I'm a bad person because one of my great great great great great x100 grandfathers did something in God knows where, and society can never forgive that

2005-03-02 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: I WANT EQUAL TREATMENT!!!! I should stand up and demand it during notes next class "ummm, excuse me Mrs. Rickard, I take offfense to being refered to as "white' i think they should be called, "solders of native american and British decent, because thats whats polliticaly correct" like mentaly retarded, and SPED, its now "handicapped" or Peer who needs assistand *BS* they know what they're doing, and they know they can get away with it because sociity babies them

2005-03-02 [RaineDrop]: i hate bleeding heart liberals forcing their controling "political correct" speach on me...that is infringing on my rights to free speach...the bastards!

2005-03-02 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: yep, we can't stand for this !!! FIGHT FOR FREEDOM OF SPEECK

2005-03-02 [RaineDrop]: and no, you can't call them "handicapped" anymore...that isn't politically correct and it's offencive, you have to call them "learning disabled" or "special"....it's fucking BS...all of it

2005-03-02 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: I don't even know what to call them...i still say retarded or SpED, but even 'gay' now can't be used, they are HOMOSEXUALS or BISEXUALS!!!

2005-03-02 [RaineDrop]: fuck that...they are gay...and if they don't like that then they can stop being gay...

2005-03-02 [Mayuya]: so you are straight and no heterosexual??? ....just an idea...well i'm going...mom is staying in the clinic this night

2005-03-02 [RaineDrop]: i'm straight, *and* hetero...BUT i don't get mad that people call me straight...because i AM...gays are GAY and if they don't like being gay then they shouldn't be it anymore

2005-03-02 [Mayuya]: Isn't a great think that mom be in the clinic just for some medical test and no for nothing bad at all.....my bro call me, in other way ppl call them gay even me, but for real we are hetero, they are homo and bisexual...so what's the matter to call them homosexual or bisexual...maybe so many letter to pronounce?

2005-03-02 [RaineDrop]: no...because i don't believe in being so formal to make liberal asholes happy...they are Gay, i am straight...if they want to get picking and in my face about it, i will call them "fags"...it's their choice

2005-03-02 [duende_negro]: Sure.

2005-03-02 [Mayuya]: that's not formal, thats the way WE must call one each other when We talk about sexual orientation, but well, some people are so lazy to understand.....well..Hey hi Duende how are you today?

2005-03-02 [duende_negro]: I'm ok. I think.. how is people over here? HEy Maryuya.

2005-03-02 [Mayuya]: Duende is MAYUYA....hehe, well i don't know well because i was almost all day waiting phone calls from venezuela, my mom is sick but they call and told me that is just in the clinic for some test, and people over here...well ask them.....!

2005-03-02 [Rizzen]: I see it the same way. I'm not going to be flat out rude, but I won't stop calling thim "gay", just as I am "straight", and if they want to get all fussy about a simple word, I'll call them a whole lot worse

2005-03-02 [duende_negro]: Ok Mayuya.Well they ARE gays... that's a word that many peopel use, and the most curent. So for me it's ok. I don't mind anyways.

2005-03-02 [Mayuya]: is that you say [Rizzen], is just words, maybe there are some saying gay no homo, well if that person tell me don't say me gay say me homo is ok for me and if don't say nothing i can call that person in both ways i mean i can call that person gay or homo, the same with bisexual ...

2005-03-02 [Mayuya]: oh [RaineDrop] good night...i see you were on my partner house...did u like the new pic??? isn't it great?, really is a great photographer like [duende_negro].....yup

2005-03-02 [Rizzen]: exactelly, words are only words. Gay is the term I use most often, but I also use the term homosexual (and I must be honest, I use terms far more insulting at times too), so I see no point in getting hung up on what your called. I myself have been called many things, but names have no lasting effects

2005-03-03 [duende_negro]: And that's right... manes are just names. But sometimes they do have meaning... well if you say "bitch, fucktard" those are stupid names. An dyes they are. Gay is just a name. For me it's not insulting.

2005-03-03 [Mayuya]: that is...just words, ok in a bad mood they are offensive but at least you can insult saying GAY! or STRAIGTH! or HOMO! or HETERO! is just the sense u put on the word...if u use the words with respect they never be INSULTS....so u must be a not-educated person (talking in general) to speak with not respect.....all ppl lose the tranqulity sometimes, but not all....even me, but when i disrespect and i see i apologize, is what a educated person do

2005-03-03 [Leelo]: llalalalalalalaa

2005-03-03 [RaineDrop]: i'm sooo lonely...i hate being me...

2005-03-03 [Leelo]: don't we all.....

2005-03-03 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: I hate being you too.....sorry, dad says that to me all the time, i couldn't resist

2005-03-03 [RaineDrop]: *breaks down crying* my life sucks.......*sobs*

2005-03-03 [Rizzen]: relax, there is always someone with a worse life

2005-03-03 [RaimëRáca]: yes, i must agree with that one

2005-03-03 [Rizzen]: huzzah, and agreeance!

2005-03-03 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: ditto!! =D

2005-03-03 [RaineDrop]: *sobs* losing a friend, and a BF, and your BF's daughter in death all in one week is hard...*sobs*

2005-03-03 [Rizzen]: ah, yeah, that sucks. You have my deapest sympathies

2005-03-03 [RaineDrop]: *curles up and cries*

2005-03-03 [Leelo]: I agree too, it should make you feel a little better to know there are people out there who have it bad, even far worse

2005-03-03 [RaineDrop]: fuck them...they are not me...so i couldn't give two shits...this is the worst *my* life has been yet, so i feel shitty...life is RELATIVE! just knowing that somene's else's relative troubles may be worse if compaired, doesn't make my pain any less to me and myself....

2005-03-03 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: remember that comic I drew Snicks...?

2005-03-03 [RaineDrop]: no

2005-03-03 [Leelo]: Yeah I totaly do!

2005-03-03 [Mayuya]: well, good afternoon to all, how do you being today?, my bro calls again, my mom needs to stay another day at the clinic, that's bad too, I'm so far from there but my bro tells me don't to go, if I need he will tell me, I really pray a lot for mom, she is so old....[RaineDrop], I told u that I know what is losing near friends and familiars and one of them by killing himself...and I really don't want it for no one...but is ok...my words, my really deepest words don't make u feel a little better and I guess you think they are false...well they aren't...and well my mom is in a clinic, until tomorrow I hope just until tomorrow, I'm so far from her, but I said if I need to take a plane and go

2005-03-03 [Mayuya]: there I will do...she is my mom no?...if u want to say "gay" go ahead is not my problem now, but I still looking that you don't have respect for the others...neither for them feelings, I don't like u lose your bf, his daugther and your friend just all in one week, neither I wanted you lose them... that's terrible, I really don't know if your words was to me or Duende, and you know something?, real people have real feeling I mean support to others if they pass a bad time...you have a hand on me,...but well, I guess you will say "you fucking girl I don't want your hand, have your shitty hand is stupid" like a real lady will does no?, what a kind of talking....even if you are depress like me

2005-03-03 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: *nods*

2005-03-03 [Leelo]: yup....

2005-03-04 [it cant rain all the time]: hey i know u dont suport gays and all but come on how wuld u like it if we said u cant ware that bcuz it dusent say that in the bible u know what i mean(u dont have 2 b 4 it but pleaz u make us feal bad 4 somthing we have no controll over u dont understand ur noy gay urself u dont know how we feal (we only want the same rights as every 1 els in this worl (did u know that if are lover gets in a reck we cant see um in the hospital becus we arnt family and we cant get married so thats y we want 2 get married pluss so much more thankz 4 lisening and we arent all bad

2005-03-04 [RaineDrop]: you have the same rights as any other unmarried couple...if my best friend was in a wreck, i couldn't see her either, even if i have known her for 17 years...i love her with all my heart, i just don't have sex with her...how is that different? it isn't...but i'm still not allowed to see her in that case...and in the bible, it *does* speak against homosexuality...many many times...Leviticus 20:13 "And when a man lies down with a male the same as one lies down with a woman, both of them have done a detestable thing. They should be put to death without fail. Their own blood is upon them." and gays *do* have a choice...i know gays, and have talked to them...it was their *choice* to act on their

2005-03-04 [RaineDrop]: .....feelings and become gay...if they, like the rest of the straight people in the world, just appreciated the beauty of their own sex, but did nothing other than that, they wouldn't be gay...simple as that...you chose the life-style of being gay, you give up your privilege of being married...that is just how it is…

2005-03-04 [Mayuya]: [it cant rain all the time]...I do support you, and i'm straight....always will support you.....see ya, mom is sick and they won't left go her to home tomorrow , my bro says she have another crisis....i'm thinking to go to caracas on monday......well see ya....sweet dreams for all.....

2005-03-05 [Kurai Tenma]: I don't support what you're doing, [it cant rain all the time] but I don't hold it against you. I still love you just the same, and yes, it is a choice. many of my friends are gay, and they tell me that it was their choice all the tiem.

2005-03-05 [Leelo]: Yeah I have a friend who is gay, but he has yet to say it's his choice, even through he knows it is. But oh well.... He's still a friend even though I don't agree with what he's doing, but that shouldn't get in the way of a friendship.......

2005-03-05 [RaineDrop]: i have a "gay" friend who is only gay for the attention it brings...and he likes girl's jewlery and make-up...he's, like, a poser-gay....

2005-03-05 [Leelo]: Oh I think that's what my friend is too.... lol cuz it's ironic on how he went all gay after two of my friends didn't want to go out with him, so he thinks he's all gay....

2005-03-05 [anarchic chick]: can you b bi or is that like against the whole straight thing.....jw cuz i hate it when ppl r just like.....gay but bi ppl i have come to like and then i myself went bi but it is only cuz my bf thinks girls making out with girls is hot and there was this chick i had made out with like 4 times b4 i met my bf and then he was like you should go bi and i was all like ok w/e and then me and the chick i made out with hooked up and i am having second thoughts about this cuz ppl at skool talk shit about us and call us lezbos but i have come to ignore it but plz umm i-m me if u have anything to say if you have aol then roxygirl0102 or surferchickx369 or just email me if you cant im and when you im me

2005-03-05 [Leelo]: Bi people fall intot he lines of gay people, because they are not straight, straight people are straight, they don't like any part of the same sex or whatever. So yes we don't agree with bi's and gays...

2005-03-05 [Radioactive Flea]: You shouldn't of changed for the sake of someone elses fantasies. The majority of people I know are bi, personally I find this to be misdirected feelings for the same sex. You can love/adore someone of the same sex without being sexual. Yet many confuse these feelings.

2005-03-05 [Leelo]: yup

2005-03-05 [e5hnzwu5]: my opinion is that else you are straight OR gay. nothing between.

2005-03-05 [i am heddas lost brother]: thats bullshit to the maximum. if you can love niggaz from the same sex, or niggaz from the opposite sex, you can love em both too....you guys are thinking too ''black or white''

2005-03-05 [Mayuya]: just....yup

2005-03-06 [Leelo]: Yup i'm giving just a yup, I don't have to explain my yup, or is it discrimination to say yup?

2005-03-06 [alkabong8888]: Using the Bible as a refference, how does that support freedom in America? You dirty fools, you are the ones to burn iin hell.

2005-03-06 [Leelo]: Ummm yeah... that's nice.

2005-03-06 [Lioness123]: who are you to say who's going to hell and who's not? leave judgment to God.

2005-03-06 [e5hnzwu5]: I agree.

2005-03-06 [Mayuya]: no the " just....yup" is mine...I can say yup too , I'm saying "yup" about what [i am heddas lost brother] telling.....sorry , I must say "yup from [Mayuya] to [i am heddas lost brother]", well dear, I hope u do understood well....now

2005-03-07 [RaineDrop]: wow...i go away for the weekend...i hate "flamers"...if you fags have something to say, say it without being assholes...and i thought you [i am heddas lost brother] said you would stop being a dick on this wiki...

2005-03-07 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: I agree

2005-03-07 [Mayuya]: Oh God there is again the real lady's speaker again....

2005-03-07 [Rizzen]: actually, we're all pissed with Stimpy. He's done nothing but make a useless ass of himself. Gunning for a banning I'm guessing

2005-03-07 [RaineDrop]: i'm just tired of his shit...and he is going to be reported soon...he can have an opinion, but since he never *expesses it* and just starts fights, he *can* be banned for being an "asshole"...a week without him would be very nige

2005-03-07 [Rizzen]: I'd prefer more of "forever" than just a week

2005-03-07 [RaineDrop]: well, your first banning you are only banned for a week...

2005-03-07 [Rizzen]: oh, well hopefully the week should be enough to keep him away

2005-03-07 [RaineDrop]: that would be what we all could hope for

2005-03-07 [Rizzen]: indeed

2005-03-07 [tarnation]: O.O i am overwhelmed by the ignorance... can someone tell me who wrote top 10 reasons against gay marriage?? i would really like to know

2005-03-07 [alkabong8888]: I fear that you prejudice bastards will take over the nation, what will happen then?

2005-03-07 [alkabong8888]: The reason America was created was for freedom, not some Christian preventing people from loving eachother

2005-03-07 [alkabong8888]: The creator of this wiki says that gays are just as happy unmarried so it should be illegal, why then, if staights are just as happy not married; is marriage legal for them?

2005-03-07 [alkabong8888]: Anyone who is against gays is (1) Stupid (2) stupid (3) religious fool (4) a combination (5) other and stupid

2005-03-07 [Kirikale]: America wasn't created for freedom at all. It was created to be a profitable company for the Virginia Company, which expanded into the colonies. Freedom was an afterthought. If you wanna get technical. (Not that I'm opposed to freedom or anything).

2005-03-07 [alkabong8888]: America, the country was established for freedom. It's called the Constitution. Gayism should be a religion, then no one can make laws against it... that's it!

2005-03-07 [Rizzen]: currently marriage is illegal for gays because the american constitution defines marriage as a "union between a man and a woman". However, the reason so many poeple are against it is because gay marriage is a perversion of the marriage God created. Marriage is a religious ceremony, whether your atheist or not, and considering Christianity is against homosexuality, well, you can figure it out

2005-03-07 [Kirikale]: America was established for independence from British rule and British taxes. Not necessarily freedom (seeing as there was still slavery until the 1850s). Yeah, I'm being annoying, I'll quit now.

2005-03-07 [alkabong8888]: I think you should go to Top 10 Reasons For Gay Marriage

2005-03-07 [Rizzen]: Alkabong, I think you'r blurring the line between beig against gay marriage and purelly being against gays. The truth of the matter is that the whole thing is a religious issue, and who are you to argue against someone beliefs. You are being just as intollerant as you think we are being. Yes we don't support gay marriage, but you just have to accept it. There is very little you can say to change someone mind when their opinion is faith based, and many who are in this organization are religious (as far as I know)

2005-03-07 [RaineDrop]: in the constitution it speaks freedom *of* religion, not freedom *from* religion and they are allowed to use religion as a basis for laws as long as they don't favor any *one* religion...and all major religions speak against homosexuality...thus why it stays that gay marriage is illegal...end of story

2005-03-07 [Rizzen]: even on the American dollar is has the line "In God we trust"

2005-03-07 [RaineDrop]: exactly...the men that wrote the constitution and made our "rights" and "freedoms" were all god believers...all our laws are based off the Christian/ Judaic laws (10 commandments) we didn't pull such laws out of our asses...our country was founded on Christian beliefs...we just said we will not *favor* any ONE religion,,,there would be no "church of America" like there was a "church of England"...and with those thoughts, we said marriage was a union between a MAN and a WOMAN...there is no religion that conflicts with...jso it is npt "unconstatutional" to say gay's can't marry...and last statistic i saw it said nearly 90% of the population was against gay marriage....

2005-03-07 [Mayuya]: [Rizzen] good night first....being gay and tolerate are totaly diferent, in other way what gays need to tolarate straight?....is like a circle u see, religion, i don't agree even i be a religious person but not "fanatic of religion" all ppl have their choice, mines isn't a fanatic, but i know what a gay marriage can mean for them, they can mean not be discrimitated persons, i don't say all straight do ok, and not all gays feel like it , but yes it can be discrimitated...bible, religion ok your choice, heart...mine, i know what is feeling discriminated and for other things that straight thinks....including me like straight ok, but never discriminate, [Rizzen] feelings are stroger...

2005-03-07 [RaineDrop]: discriminate? against what? so you can't marry SO WHAT? gays have NEVER been able to marry in ANY culture...so why now? they have lived their whole lives happily with their lovers, so why do they now need a piece of paper that says they "love eachother"...they are just fishing for "acceptance"...like being able to get married will make them "normal" because they *know* they are not normal...

2005-03-07 [Mayuya]: they never be unnormal...they are people just like u or me, and why they can't think they can be marry, because another piece of legal paper say no, please unlegal relationships, straight or gays still unlegals, you can't say to me that if u live with a bf without being marry u are legal, or are good in front of God eyes...think honey, straights that don't marry are unlegal too so that make them unnormal?...no...but unlegal (if this is the word), and i still thinking you don't understand my words or the sense of my words...i was talking to [Rizzen]...

2005-03-07 [RaineDrop]: no, straights that don't marry are not legal, so? that just means that, like gays, they can't visit their partner in the hospital...that's all...and usually, if you are living together and not married, you don't care what god thinks anyways...and if you are gay, you shouldn't care what god says because you are breaking his laws...gays ar "not normal" because what is normal is definded by our *natural purpose* and that is the sexual acts between a man and a woman...that be said, gays are *not* "normal" but *want* to be...to be *accepted* by being allowed to marry...and at this point...that isn't about to happen

2005-03-07 [Mayuya]: Well good night for every one in here, is 1.36 am, time to sleep.....sweet dreams all....

2005-03-07 [Mayuya]: ah before going....honey i was talking to [Rizzen] and yes straight like me , maybe can visit my parents on the hospital, but i'm not breaking anything because heart is first...love that the bible say so much love...so see ya tomorrow...

2005-03-07 [i am heddas lost brother]: whadat? my last message was serious, what the fuck you bitches whining about, i stopped being a weeny.... I only said that you guys are thinking to black or white.... alkabong888 and muyaya you da shit fo real dawgs, yo completeley right!, rainedrop, get a life:) rizzen.......*sigh*

2005-03-07 [Mayuya]: uuuuu, I never talk unrespecting you, and I do take that a serius coment...and is not muyaya is [Mayuya] ok....guess u don't want to have my opinon just was that...an opinion...really extrmes are realy bad....yup...I see u change of opinion like the night and day, so fast...stay in one way or be in the middle as u say in your house, that u are bisexual...so respect your sexual orientation too...like I respect mines with one thing i guess all needs, tolerance and balance....so I prefer to be a bitch hun than a narcotraficant (in general) that's just a quote that in my country ppl say, no offense to anyone.....

2005-03-07 [i am heddas lost brother]: :D whatwhatwhat?! that wasnt disrespecting! i said you and alkabong888 were completely right!

2005-03-07 [Rizzen]: ummm... Muyaya, I know you were directing your comments at me, but on a public forum you have to realize that others have a say. I am a part of this organization just as are all the other members. If you dont want them talking, send me a personall message, but as long as you speak on this wiki, be prepared for others to speak as well.

2005-03-07 [Mayuya]: You know something you talk againts straight ppl, (sometimes), you , like [RaineDrop] say or, you comes and go, you write to my house saying good things about my thinking, but now u change like I say , as night change to day, is very strange, I guess u are joking with the both parts, but really it doesen't matter me, still calling me bitch or whatever, I won't report you for those stupids words ...I know what i am, I know all people over here have a clear think, because we are on a free country, like you, but really, you are not clear...I guess, maybe yes...I can be wrong...I never say that I have all the true in my hands....do you?

2005-03-07 [Mayuya]: no [Rizzen] ok u have reason, just I wanted to make a apart moment .....we are a community, that's what ET is, a community, someone told me once in here that she wasn't directing the comment to me, so I guess I have the same right, can I have it or is bad to make an apart just for once...I guess no, but well all in general...all.....

2005-03-07 [Mayuya]: [i am heddas lost brother] I'm sorry so.....I don't speak english well so maybe i confuse, if i did something bad...i apologaize....

2005-03-07 [i am heddas lost brother]: its not your fault:)

2005-03-07 [Mayuya]: thank you...well time to luch or i'm real hungry.... :) i like to eat early.... see ya later... :)

2005-03-07 [RaineDrop]: you are all idiots and you give me a headache trying to read what you write...[Mayuya] doesn't speak english as her first language, but what is your excuse [i am heddas lost brother]? i have a life, thus why i'm not always on...i come here and see your retarded comments and just shake my head...and i have *no idea* what [Mayuya] is talking about...changing like night to day...what? my opinions are what they are...i have expressed them several times on this wiki clearly, and they have yet to change...so what the heck are you talking about?

2005-03-07 [Mayuya]: ok...^^

2005-03-07 [Mayuya]: [Rizzen] u know that Muyaya is a great screen name too....I will get the idea.... ^^ in spanish sound happy...and [Mayuya] is my screen name for now... see ya!

2005-03-07 [i am heddas lost brother]: somebody give rainedrop a cookie

2005-03-07 [RaineDrop]: ? learn to type moron...

2005-03-07 [i am heddas lost brother]: im sorry, english isn't my primary language, if you have to call you me a moron for that you are a racist, i dont like racists.

2005-03-07 [RaineDrop]: changing your comments after i coment on them is retarded and childish...but whatever...you've been reported anyways...........and calling you a moron because of your actions isn't "racist"....only if i were calling you a moron because ypu were a race would be racist...MORON...

2005-03-07 [Mayuya]: I don't know [RaineDrop] what are you talking about ??? :s

2005-03-07 [i am heddas lost brother]: rainedrop are you high?

2005-03-07 [RaineDrop]: [i am heddas lost brother] are you stupid?

2005-03-07 [i am heddas lost brother]: never mind, im gonna listen toThe Village People - YMCA.....:S

2005-03-07 [RaineDrop]: alright...you do that

2005-03-07 [i am heddas lost brother]: do you like that song?

2005-03-07 [i am heddas lost brother]: the lyrics are pretty good

2005-03-07 [RaineDrop]: no,...actually i dislike the song...

2005-03-07 [i am heddas lost brother]: oh, and why is that?

2005-03-07 [Mayuya]: don worry hasan...if she needs to report someone is because she can't solve the situations with a real discussion, ...whatever ....just intelligent ppl makes intelligent things like don't report just try to discuss the theme and try to get the balance like i always say....and yes [RaineDrop] why you say moron in a bad tone ...uuuuuu that's from racist people and u aren't u have the safe zone from stupidity that all races etc..and bla, bla, bla are equal...of course without stupid persons like me no? I guess u think that..and it doesn't care is so stupid to think that other ppl is stupid for think in other way!

2005-03-07 [i am heddas lost brother]: yes exactly!

2005-03-07 [RaineDrop]: i report people like [i am heddas lost brother] for being harassing and an "asshole" not because he has a different opinion....i have never called him a moron when he was on topic and expressing an actual opinion...only when he was dicking around....and [Mayuya]...why do you think i think you are stupid? and why do you think i think you are stupid just because of your race? where the heck did that come from?

2005-03-07 [RaineDrop]: when stimpyhasan will get into a "real discission" like you say mayuya, i will discuss it with him...but if he is just going to call me a "biatch" on a wiki because he doesn't like *my* opinions, i will report him...that so hard to understand?

2005-03-07 [i am heddas lost brother]: Then why did you call us ''Fags''? I had never called you anything before that......d'oh

2005-03-07 [Mayuya]: hey [RaineDrop], YMCA was a great song then k, they give to it another msg, but...hummm..my dad is 78 oh, God my dad is gay because he likes that song!!! my God...after 78 years i know my daddy is gay...a lyric...and really he likes it, like he can like tangos and boleros and salsa.....and rock and blues and jazz.....or just pop....

2005-03-07 [RaineDrop]: i call anyone fags...i don't use it in discriminating against gays spacifically...and when i called you "fags" you were all being closeminded dickheads, unwilling to accept *our* opinions like you demand of us with yours...so really...i feel i was justified

2005-03-07 [i am heddas lost brother]: ''P.S. I AM [dfafadsfasdasf] YOUR GREAT LEADER PLZZZZ CONVINCE AS MANY AS YOU CAN TO JOIN ARE GLORIOUS FORCE AGAINST GAY MARRIGE, IT IS OUR RIGHT TO BE STRAIGHT''     sigh, i was looking at the first page of this wiki and saw that....''we have the right to be straight''?!  that doesnt have anything to do with.......fuck it:)

2005-03-07 [RaineDrop]: what the heck are you talking about mayuya? i just don't LIKE the song! i don't care about it being "gay" or whatever you are talking about! i NEVER liked the song, not even when i was little...i just found it annoying and nothing more, so shut the hell up about things you don't know anything about...

2005-03-07 [i am heddas lost brother]: sure

2005-03-07 [Mayuya]: I'm accepting the only thing you don't see is our position and don't talk with bad words or insulting us, plezzzzzzzzzzz, i don't want anyone change their kind of think...but hear us too...and really [RaineDrop] I don't want to say this , but closemind are you when u just talk in a bad really dirty mood to the ppl, go back and back and back and see the vocabulary....

2005-03-07 [Mayuya]: I'm more intelligent that u think....and if i'm saying i am is because i am....over the normal, want my exams too?

2005-03-07 [RaineDrop]: i am in an ANNOYED mood because of you making no sense...i uderstand you have poor english and i don't judge you on that, but 1/2 the time your comments just totally make no sense when you claim things that have no evidance or grounds...if you knew me (which you don't) you know i fight fire with fire...people come here and flame and i do it right back...stimpyhasan is a moron, and i point it out to him...that is just what i do

2005-03-07 [Mayuya]: so be a lady and use confortable words for a lady, not like a......well think whatever u want....free mind remember, i'm just telling you that because i'm almost 20 years older than you...that's why.....and if u talk like this now, how can it be when u be older...God...!

2005-03-07 [RaineDrop]: i never said you were not intelligent mayuya...i said your comments are either untrue, or have no grounds...i never once said "mayuya, you are so stupid" so stop making it sound like i have

2005-03-07 [RaineDrop]: i talk how i like...i am perfectly lady-like...when it calls for it...but here and now it doesn't, and i can say what i like when it is called for.......quite treating me like a child woman, because i'm not

2005-03-07 [Mayuya]: yes i have poor english , that's why i don't understand anything and i'm living with my partner that is north american citizen and he don't understand me that's why i have a lot of friends all over the world in netherlands, france, italy , us (colorado, noth carolina, wyoming, N.Y., L.A. San jose, conecticut, well of course florida and all are in the great part no latins i mean from 20 maybe 2 are latins)...well i know i have a bad speech but i need to start again, do you know how to speak good spanish?

2005-03-07 [RaineDrop]: i used to know spanish...but i have forgotten it all...your english, though difficult to follow at times, is still good...it's your train of THOUGHT i can't follow 1/2 the time...you seem to think i hate you, or that i hate anyone that thinks differently than me, or that i think you are :stupid" even though i have said nothing of the sort, and have even said otherwise in comments

2005-03-07 [Mayuya]: [RaineDrop], u are an intelligent woman, real one, young yes u are, need experience all people needs experience all life, you must need how to manage the sarcams until being bad talking woman, of course you can talk with the wrost words that u want, I just wanted you see at yourself talking and see what is your kind orf talk...try to make some good isn't bad or yes?, you are a lady, but you need to demostrate it with words too, you are not a child, but you neither are a grow up woman yet, neither me, I always learn something new.....

2005-03-07 [RaineDrop]: i can't help that i'm sarcastic...it's just how i am...and i do refuse to resort to foul launguage and namecalling in a *real* debate because those have no place in a debate of *opinions*....but if it's just [i am heddas lost brother] saying stuff to be annoying or to start a fight between members, i will speak harshly to him...

2005-03-07 [Mayuya]: well as you wish, u know my point of view, that i support gay marriage, and all this we are talking about, i know what Hasan wants to say, and i support him too, you can have your opinion , why not? , i can have mine, why not?, but really u think that you will go somewhere with a harshly talking...???

2005-03-07 [RaineDrop]: i know when to use harsh talking, and when not to...and yes, you do have your opinion, so does he, and so do i...the difference is, you are on a wiki that opposes your views, and with him, he is just plain rude and insulting...he is not exercising his rights to have a different opinion, just his rights to be an asshole...and i then exercise my right to report him for it...LIKE I HAVE SAID, people can have different opinions, but if they just come here to pick a fight, they will be reported...i don't go to gay wiki as say i'm opposed to their opinions, so why do people do that here with us?

2005-03-07 [Kayne]: This wiki has a pretty controversial opinion and therefore you'll be forced to explain it all over again evertime someone enters. :-)

2005-03-07 [Mayuya]: see something...I'm straight, i'm in a straight wiki no?, but i can have a different opinion or another point of view, and is valid....well report is your choice, ok...you can go to a gay wiki and i'm sure they will hear you, and get your opinion, (i'm not saying that all gays are excellets) if this will be all people the same life will be very boring....I don't know , i came here for just , how can I say, I enter and was interesting but i wanted to say my opinion too, so why not?, hey I'm 100% straight but I know what feelings means...a friend from san jose in cali, he teach me what is balance in all , i never be gay or bi, but we talk a lot of that, he is straight too, he isn't from et,

2005-03-07 [RaineDrop]: this isn't a "straight wiki" though...this isn't a wiki for "straight people" its's a wiki for people, either gay or straight, who are apposed to gay marriage...opposites attract is a "straight wiki" go there if that is all you want...

2005-03-07 [Mayuya]: that's why i say that all people learns forever, experiences never finish....

2005-03-07 [i am heddas lost brother]: hey rainefock, i was jujst expressing my opinion, i told you guys were thinking too ''black or white'' and you starting crying like a baby and called us fags.

2005-03-07 [Kayne]: Stimpyhasan: You are now officially a fuckhead and are asked to leave this wiki or you will be reported.

2005-03-07 [Mayuya]: no why i'm comfortable here....^^

2005-03-07 [tarnation]: QUOTE: "i don't go to gay wiki as say i'm opposed to their opinions, so why do people do that here with us?", by [RaineDrop] yes, you did, you came to MY wiki and said that we were wrong, you hyppocrite!!!

2005-03-08 [Rizzen]: okay, everyone need to calm down. Things are getting way out of hand. Rainedrop, I'm getting just as annoyed as you are sometimes, but we really do need to sit down and actually say what exactelly is bugging us. Oh, and Muyaya, I have to say, you came here after stimpy did, so you know nothing about our situation with him. He showed up, made a complete ass of himself, and was told to leave. This is why we no longer tolerate him here, because he gave us no reason to. As for Rainedrops "inapropriate language", let her say what she wants to say. I've seen her debate before, and when it's legitimate, she is very civil. However, at the moment, all you are doing is pushing her further, while not

2005-03-08 [Rizzen]: completelly understanding her situation

2005-03-08 [The Scarlet Pumpernickle]: *cheers for [Rizzen]* Finnaly someone is makeing sense!

2005-03-08 [Rizzen]: it had to be said

2005-03-08 [RaineDrop]: what wiki was yours [tarnation]? if you are talking about the 10 gay issue wiki, i did that last night because a member came here and was bitching about it all so i checked it out and couldn't help but laugh at their stupidity and how BADLY they argued against the person's opinions...they were already showing that they were closeminded and made up their opinion that they were "right" so nothing i said would matter anyways...and as you can see by their reactions, they attacked me personally more than anything i said about the opinions of the matter...so really, i'm not a hypocrite when you look at that wiki

2005-03-08 [i am heddas lost brother]: lies, all lies, btw rainefock, i did the same thing on this wiki as you did on the 10 gay thing wiki, love u though

2005-03-08 [RaineDrop]: no, actually, i didn't...(^_^)

2005-03-08 [Mayuya]: well maybe i need to stay quiet, I'm not really in a great mood, mom stills bad, her healt is being all days wrost...so I'm thinking to go to my home in Caracas...I want to stay beside her...I don't know so much is ok...I don't know anything is ok....you have the reason, talk bad about gays, about democrats (that really is not my problem), about bible and no, about quotes and no, use good words or bad, it doesn't matter ...I just want my mom realy healty like I want to be healty too and I never could be...epylepsy just have control, I'm tired to try to get a balance, I'm tired yes, and my family if first than you....still sayin me muyaya is ok..doesn't matter...is a funny name,

2005-03-08 [Rizzen]: well, I hope your mom gets better soon. On a side note, I don't recall anyone ever saying Muyaya was a bad name.

2005-03-08 [Mayuya]: I hope, all of you be fine and healty, for real, I don't need to make jokes with something like this, thanks for giving a space in a wiki that I'm not a member, and really I hope all of you and I say all have a balance...maybe when i be on caracas I can get into elftown again to say hello, sorry if my person say something that can't be for you, sorry because i support people you don't like to see, sorry for be a human with a heart...and mind....sorry for just speak a little english...and sorry if sometimes my words don't show the real sense that I want to show...be good, take care....

2005-03-08 [Rizzen]: you don't have to apologize for anything. Though your line of "sorry for be a human with a heart...and mind....", we're trying to avoid the insults remember? I don't know if that was you'r intention, but it was pretty insulting

2005-03-08 [Mayuya]: no wasn't an insult really no....I don't like to insult, that's for ppl that don't think....really I'm really sad, so ET takes me outh the real life I mean my real life ok?...I'm very sad to insult someone....

2005-03-08 [Rizzen]: well, as long as you did not mean to, but you should be more carefull. That line was very much implying we were inhuman, hatefull creatures. I know the language thing comes into play, but still...

2005-03-08 [Mayuya]: what do you want [Rizzen], on my knees and say that i need "merci" for living, no, is just a line, just words and I guess I told u I don't like to insult...well take it as you wish [Rizzen] inner me I know I don't say it trying to insult...ok....just that...if I'm talking about language, why I need to do the same??? Is stupid, and I considere myself like a really smart person for doing stupid things like insult...yes they are stupid and u know this, and I don't like insults, and I'm really in a mood that don't left me insult no one, much people needs insults (in general) but I just don't do it because is not my style, well whatever I know sometimes they comes out me,

2005-03-08 [Mayuya]: but I really apologize when I do it, because I don't like to do things that I don't want to receive....can I explain myself?.....

2005-03-08 [Rizzen]: Muyaya, as I said before, you have nothing to apologize. If I offended you, I am sorry. All I'm saying is that certain phrases can mean many things. Even I, and english major in university, must still watch what I say

2005-03-08 [Mayuya]: english major or whatever, I just talk few, but the little I talk I guess is ok, but you don't hear my voice, so how can u said have many meanings?, we are just writing...no talking.....so the sense disapear if us (in general) don't read like it must be readed, I use comas, points, etc...so I don't understand....really don't ...I'm latin , a stupid latin thinking that can speak a language that is the first on the world I guess.....but is ok....NOOOO...!, I don't want to start a new fight, is stupid and I'm not, just sorry again for my language.....that's all.....but I guess u need to watch what I say too...yes, sometimes I'm sarcastic....but no now, knowing my mom is on Caracas sick....

2005-03-08 [Rizzen]: please, stop being sorry. You have nothing to be sorry for. I never said you were stupid, all I'm saying is that the english language is very complex, and certain things can have different meaning depending on how they are said, or typed. Anyway, obviously this matter has gotten out of hand, so lets just forget it

2005-03-08 [duende_negro]: And it's right.. English words may have different meanings... But it's not that complex. Though.. it's t not the subject right now. And it's difficult to write in a language that you don't write or speak that good. But... then if we start typing in spanish.. it woudl be more difficut to understand, not many people do write it or understand it good. SO yes, the best thing is forgeting what you say... (well not completely.)

2005-03-08 [i am heddas lost brother]: Hello Gringo's, my name is Emilio Ramirez and I'm from Mexico, can I join your wiki?

2005-03-08 [RaineDrop]: go jerkoff in a goat's ass stimpy....

2005-03-08 [duende_negro]: (that was funny for some reason.. image it)

2005-03-08 [i am heddas lost brother]: Que? I'm sorry my english very poor

2005-03-08 [duende_negro]: Si es así... entonces largate.. joder. La verdad solo estorbas. did you undertand that better.?

2005-03-08 [RaineDrop]: vaya tenga el sexo con una cabra Stimpy....(was that right? my spanish sucks)

2005-03-08 [Rizzen]: si Stimpy tomaría su cabeza de su parte posterior, quizás podríamos discutir algo de importancia (here's hoping my translator worked)

2005-03-08 [duende_negro]: Sip excelente. Pero no entendí mucho lo de la parte "Posterior"

2005-03-08 [RaineDrop]: *giggles* i think "subsequent part" is his ass...lol...okay, enough spanish people...honestly...

2005-03-08 [duende_negro]: Yes, but well never mind...

2005-03-08 [hercules the legend]: haven't been here in ages

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